tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post5710052054194425486..comments2024-03-23T08:25:22.526-04:00Comments on ED Bites: 2012 ICED Thoughts, Part OneCarrie Arnoldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02569839838912988783noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-53389640165120055052012-05-11T20:44:41.429-04:002012-05-11T20:44:41.429-04:00I would have loved to attend ICED. I'd like to...I would have loved to attend ICED. I'd like to know how to get involved with eating disorder awareness--I have a pretty powerful story myself (who doesn't). But, more importantly, freeing myself from my story is of utmost importance. Having been a part of clinical trails raises the issue of research for me--now, I am the research (in a different topic). Research is important, learning how to apply it is a different ballgame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-41785669478372858852012-05-11T18:25:16.217-04:002012-05-11T18:25:16.217-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.stopbeingstupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14860866633957025571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-86159625035457769582012-05-11T18:22:01.517-04:002012-05-11T18:22:01.517-04:00I really want to agree with what ExtraLongTail sai...I really want to agree with what ExtraLongTail said - the trouble with (some) attempts to use evidence-based treatment is that they are too simplistic. They take the evidence that a certain treatment works for more people than another, then use it on someone on whom it does not work, even though there is evidence that FBT does not work on all anorexics and CBT does not work on all bulimics.stopbeingstupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14860866633957025571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-55332918427571129252012-05-10T18:44:16.836-04:002012-05-10T18:44:16.836-04:00Fabulous, clear and funny - I enjoyed the twitter ...Fabulous, clear and funny - I enjoyed the twitter feed and being part of the action as it unfolded but was I the only one worrying that I couldn't always follow the 140 character code? I am learning to love twitter but it's sometimes hard work reading between the characters.<br /><br />Just for further edification (and because I have a personal interest coupled with an occasional tendancy to pedantry!) I think Paul Revere was actually originally French; born in the tiny commune of Riocaud, SW France to la famille Rivoire - but that makes no odds to this speech, the import of which made my heart sing.<br /><br />Thank you for this and I am really looking forward to hearing more.EricaBHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05669538266286286798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-8540123622968204732012-05-10T05:30:12.706-04:002012-05-10T05:30:12.706-04:00Fabulous post Carrie, thank you! I was watching th...Fabulous post Carrie, thank you! I was watching the twitter feed and feeling terribly jealous :) but Laura's post and this one goes a way towards satisfying the curiosity of those of us who couldn't be there.<br /><br />By the way, that picture of you and the mechanical bull is adorable!Katiehttp://giantfossilizedarmadillo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-17803931387059329692012-05-09T09:00:40.976-04:002012-05-09T09:00:40.976-04:00Carrie, excellent synopsis and analysis. I was THE...Carrie, excellent synopsis and analysis. I was THERE and you've brought more clarity to the Keynote here!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17219492984914810944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-90704867994695470182012-05-09T06:02:39.563-04:002012-05-09T06:02:39.563-04:00While you may attribute the etiology of your own e...While you may attribute the etiology of your own eating disorder to biology, I think you frequently underestimate the impact of sexual abuse and trauma on the development of eating disorders in your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-51361563062253121912012-05-09T04:37:56.861-04:002012-05-09T04:37:56.861-04:00Carrie, thank you for this great blog on Lilienfel...Carrie, thank you for this great blog on Lilienfeld's presentation. I now feel as though I were there. You are a gem. xxJune Alexanderhttp://www.junealexander.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-86373849675979373802012-05-09T04:06:38.333-04:002012-05-09T04:06:38.333-04:00Rock n Roll Carrie - what an amazing post and SO i...Rock n Roll Carrie - what an amazing post and SO informative. The frustration with following the twitter feed is that I got tantalising glimpses of this speech but it even more exciting in the flesh, so to speak.<br /><br />Thank you for your tweeting and thank you for this amazing blog post.<br /><br />xxCHARLOTTE'S RANThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15924653828316135774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-24887379376383326962012-05-09T03:32:52.670-04:002012-05-09T03:32:52.670-04:00One of your Best Posts Ever, Carrie :) I really, r...One of your Best Posts Ever, Carrie :) I really, really like the sound of Lilienfeld's lecture. <br /><br />As a Biomedical Scientist and definite Empiricist, I love the idea of evidence based treatment - in theory. The caveat in terms of ED treatment, as far as I see it, is that there is a tendency to categorise people and supposed effective treatments by the disorder. <br /><br />So, for example, a person can have a diagnosis of (e.g.) anorexia nervosa (AN), because they have lost a significant amount of weight for psychological rather than physical reasons and are somehow unable to cope with the idea of re-gaining the weight and the actual process of behavioural change to effect weight gain. Yet, evidence suggests that the treatment that is effective for more people than it is not (family based treatment = FBT) doesn't work for everyone. This may be due to the tools that are used to evaluate the efficacy of FBT in clinical trials, or something more specific to the person with AN and their families. But the problem is that if FBT doesn't work then the person with AN may be considered 'non-compliant', or their family may feel very guilty/hopeless for having 'failed' with their child. <br /><br />Consequently, I like the idea of using the principles of a treatment paradigm while tailoring it to fit the needs of the patient. In AN, for example, there are data to suggest that the difficult-to-treat patients who have long-standing illness, have autism spectrum conditions, severe OCD, or certain traits that play a role in them becoming entrenched in the illness. If such traits could be identified pre-treatment (e.g. from parent recall of childhood temperament and behaviours), then it may be easier to guide effective treatment from the outset.<br /><br />I will also add that a difficulty some researchers or practitioners have with regard to humbleness, is that they have built their careers around researching/practicing via a particular paradigm. If they are unable/unwilling to accept new evidence then for them this undermines their perceived credibility and identity. <br /><br />I love the Sagan quote :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-72884503360899314262012-05-09T03:02:40.159-04:002012-05-09T03:02:40.159-04:00We do all see the world through the lens of what w...We do all see the world through the lens of what we already think is probably true, whether that be the lens of science, of religion, or even of an ed. The world is all kinds of flexible and bends to fit us where we're at- such is the power of the human psyche. It's a bit of a mind trip then- does anyone ever really find a solution? All research on effective treatments are based on people- and on people treating people- and just because something works more often than not doesn't necessarily mean that thing is "right" and another method is "wrong"- only that, at that particular point in time, it bent to fit more people than it didn't.<br /><br />Bleh. I'm out-thinking myself...<br /><br />I like the Sagan quote, and I think it applies to all humans, scientist or not- if there's no "I might be wrong" then there is no opportunity for growth, for progress, for insight.hmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-65871241833747097692012-05-09T00:21:54.848-04:002012-05-09T00:21:54.848-04:00Great review, btw. Am looking forward to the rest ...Great review, btw. Am looking forward to the rest of your reports. Thanks!Jenniferhttp://www.desertdwellergettingon.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6561748834204284315.post-56517369097244877182012-05-09T00:20:26.688-04:002012-05-09T00:20:26.688-04:00Carrie, I'm taking a course currently on the l...Carrie, I'm taking a course currently on the law. The first lecture presented much of what Lilienfeld discusses re human bias so I've included a link to the paper by Barack Orbach on regulation: http://humanities.arizona.edu/sites/default/files/Barak%20Orbach--Regulation%20%28PDF%29.pdfJenniferhttp://www.desertdwellergettingon.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com